Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cyberpunk/archive1
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Influential genre of fiction, and a good example of an article that has grown, and continues to grow, through collaboration and discussion. --Paul Soth 04:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Object too many lists, not enough actual paragraphical writing. rewrite it then send it to peer review. ALKIVAR™ 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Object. I agree with Alkivar. Also, the article doesn't have a seperate references section. Mgm|(talk) 12:50, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Object Alkivar is right on. The lists don't explain why the items included are important. So when you list Megacorporations as a common element in the cyberpunk genre, give a 2-3 sentence explanation/exploration. Lists of movies aren't really helpful to the reader unless the reader already knows most of them—change sections like that into a discussion of the major or epochal movies that developed the genre over time. Do the same with the list of authors and novels. It won't kill the article to only mention the big ones (only the notable stories/authors/movies), and let the readers discover the other novels by reading articles that this one links to. —thames 14:06, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Object Agreed. Only readers of the books / viewers of the movies know anything about them. Common themes are only hinted at. Influences are scattered. Also notice a strong seepage of anime themes into this article, some of which are not necessarily related, per se. Politely disagree about only mentioning the big ones (books, especially, though a fair amount of movies can be removed) wouldn't kill the article. Zenorbital 05:32, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Object. This article is simply not there yet. Overall, it shows a strong tendency to claim any famous SF as either cyberpunk or a precursor thereto. It does not sufficiently address the criticisms raised against canonical cyberpunk works. Its organization is confused and overgrown. The lists are, by and large, worse than useless. Better to talk deeply about the smaller number of works which are definitively part of the genre than to include bullet points for all the movies, books and bands "which could possibly be considered cyberpunk". Anville 17:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)