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Ownership

Setting aside the sovereignty dispute, is the legal ownership of the land known? Perhaps the Crown / Ministry of Defence? McPhail (talk) 13:46, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The answer would be that no part of the ocean floor has an "owner". There might be mineral rights or fishing rights. You could add shipping and over-flight to that list, but not ownership. You ask "is the legal ownership of the land known?" the answer would be that it cannot be owned, there is no ownership.

This all hinges on whether the ocean floor is legally different to an uninhabitable rock.

we can all have our opinions on that.

I hope that this is helpful in explaining what looks like (and probably is) contradictions in the (much abused) article Lugnad (talk) 03:40, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnad: - under Scots law, Rockall will have an owner. The planning permission associated with the installation of a plaque in 2010 will likely state who that owner is. I hope that is helpful. McPhail (talk) 09:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Uninhabitable?

Would it be better to say 'uninhabited', as one person has already stayed there for 45 days, and Nobby Styles (G0VJG) is aiming to better this record at the end of May 23? 167.98.155.118 (talk) 10:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine that,s to do with the UNCOSS. And it is fairly uninhabitable, AFAICS its so steep sided that beaching and keeping a boat there for food is impossible. One could argue that Antarctica is uninhabitable though not uninhabited. Jabberwoch (talk) 03:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that I would be better to say 'uninhabited'. While it is true that the islet’s steep sides and lack of resources make it challenging for long-term habitation, the fact that individuals have managed to stay there for extended periods demonstrates that it is not completely uninhabitable. The distinction between 'uninhabitable' and 'uninhabited' is significant, as the former suggests that it is impossible to live there, which is not the case. Therefore, in my opinion, using 'uninhabited' correctly indicates that, although possible, no permanent residents choose to live there. Utter Donkey (talk) 22:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Especially since it matters. If Rockall is "uninhabitable" it doesn't count towards the UK's continental shelf and territorial waters. If merely "uninhabited", as the SAS person and Greenpeace have been there for an extended period, it might count.

I wouldn't want to live there, this doesn't make it "uninhabitable". Uncriticalsimon (talk) 20:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cam cameron

Reference my military service We raised more than £21,000 for military charities because I served in the army and navy As well as being a veteran soldier, I am also a retired naval officer serving in the RNR for a number of years. citation is here from armed forces network https://www.forces.net/military-life/veterans/veteran-who-hoped-break-record-living-rockall-rescued-coastguard

If it's possible to mention my naval service as well i would greatly appreciate it on behalf of the nanal charities. cam Cameron of Rockall (talk) 22:04, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a social network. David J Johnson (talk) 15:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks David for your response. I was hoping it was also accurate, never mind-worth a try. Cameron of Rockall (talk) 15:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nearest inhabited place?

Hirta isn’t “inhabited” besides military visits, so does it even count? 81.100.136.95 (talk) 18:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]