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Men beginning to wear corsets?

How common was the use of corsets by men during the Empire style period (1790 – 1830)? I can’t remember any contemporary depictions showing men with any exaggeratedly narrow waist. If you compensate for the typical three to five layers of clothes their waists become comparable to those of indigenous peoples living in areas so hot that humans don’t need any clothes. Consequentially, these peoples ether practice natural nudity or wear only a loincloth or a clothing item comparable to present Western underpants. Since they wear very little – if anything at all – their waists probably represent the natural state of the male body. It was not until after 1830 that Western men begun to be portrayed with an exaggeratedly narrow waist. Then I can imagine them wearing corsets but before that it would have been superfluous. Anyone who can verify?

2009-08-23 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.155.69 (talk) 12:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know many books which tell about the use of corsets by men during the Empire style period (1790 – 1830), but the only primary source is a printed joke by a lace scene. I have two photos of men by exaggeratedly narrow waist. Haabet 20:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/haabet/3335966311/in/set-72157608328223268/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/haabet/3336797276/in/set-72157608328223268/

I consider these to be exceptions from the norm of indigenous peoples in hot climates having natural waists.

2010-02-17 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.247.167.71 (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think even if they are exceptions to the norm, they are still important to include in the article. This way people can know about, consider, and discuss it. Paigee33 (talk) 11:06, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Are the Nude pictures really nessesary?

Do we have to have those? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.84.8.67 (talk) 17:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not censored. --Qsaw ^(talk) 18:07, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LOL pwned. 24.251.33.38 (talk) 02:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Nude pictures are important to show of the effect of corsets.Haabet 16:20, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

image display

Would it make sense to move the column of images on the right, which randomly illustrate corsets, into a gallery section? As they are now they muck up the "edit" buttons for about 5 sections. Huw Powell (talk) 02:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the "History" section have need to move to the Corset History article.Haabet 07:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

is the image of the 'corset made by corseteirre in 2005' etc etc really needed? it seems like someone is using wikipedia as a free edvertising place...121.208.89.168 (talk) 12:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Corset vendors

I've removed the sections containing links to corset vendors, per WP:SPAM. I do not believe that links to vendor web sites are appropriate. --Nuujinn (talk) 22:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Bum link

In the Notes section the fourth bullet- "History of Tightlacing". Retrieved August 11, 2015- doesn't link to anything, or it is expired. Without reference to more scholarly work, or anything to back up the claim, no one can trace the work. I don't know what the original site was so I cannot go out to find it but updating sources so that people can follow the thought process.Kennedke (talk) 16:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have tagged the deadlink at both occurrences. GrindtXX (talk) 00:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New Idea!

My ideas would be to inform readers how the corset evolved over time. I can add some sort of timeline that allows readers to visually see the evolution of the corset and how they are viewed.Chilogan (talk) 00:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review Suggestions and Questions

This overall article is very objective and encyclopedic in its language. Can more be added to the medical section? This may be a work in progress still, but it seemed quite short. Perhaps the fact the men claimed their corsets helped alleviate back pain could be mentioned in that section. With the Fetish section, "tightlacing" was never explicitly mentioned but it seemed appropriate to either move the explanation of it there or at least mention it to tie the article together. The distinctions between the types of corsets is very interesting and well detailed.Ansilvern (talk) 01:07, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Western view hatnote

The hatnote states that the article "deal[s] primarily with Western Europe and do not represent a worldwide view of the subject." Weren't corsets almost exclusively worn by women in Western society? I'm unable to find any sources for the time period when corsets were culturally popular that indicate women from Asia, Africa, or other non-European cultures wore corsets. The article Corset controversy states, "Corsets were worn by European women from the late 16th century onward." I think the hatnote is inaccurate and should be removed. — btphelps ^{(talk to me) (what I've done)} 21:16, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Addition of historical content to article

Hello! In hopes of aiding this article's content, particularly with reference to it's status as vital, I have added referenced content relating to early bodies, stays, and corsets. Image added to illustrate (stays), and links to related Wikipedia articles also made.

Hope to make it back here soon to add more concerning nineteenth century use of the corset. Many thanks to @Urbanracer34 for suggesting work here! Diary of a Dress Historian (talk) 21:45, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Diary of a Dress Historian I'm glad you took my suggestion to heart. Your support for these articles is appreciated. Urbanracer34 (talk) 22:26, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]