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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_December_8
December 8
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Viruses described in 1892
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1892 to Category:Viruses described in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1901 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1903 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1907 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1909 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1930 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1931 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1933 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1934 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1953 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1958 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1959 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1967 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1972 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1973 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1974 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1977 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1978 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1980 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1983 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1986 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1996 to Category:Viruses described in the 20th century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 2001 to Category:Viruses described in the 21st century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 2003 to Category:Viruses described in the 21st century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 2011 to Category:Viruses described in the 21st century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 2014 to Category:Viruses described in the 21st century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 2019 to Category:Viruses described in the 21st century
- Propose merging Category:Viruses described in 1892 to Category:Viruses described in the 19th century
- Nominator's rationale: Mostly 1-article categories (only 1933 & 1972 contain 2 articles), per suggestion by Marcocapelle @ Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 24#Category:Human viruses by year of formal description. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 15:34, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Map series of Canada
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Map series of Canada to Category:Map series and Category:Maps of Canada
- Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There is only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. SMasonGarrison 15:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Modern roman religion
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Modern roman religion to Category:Ancient Roman religion
- Nominator's rationale: This category overlaps heavily with a much other category. I've already warned the category creator to slow down. They're extremely new. SMasonGarrison 14:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Aired episodes tracking categories
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Template:Aired episodes using both showpage and title parameters to Category:Aired episodes using both showpage and title parameters
- Propose renaming Category:Template:Aired episodes using equal showpage and title parameters to Category:Aired episodes using equal showpage and title parameters
- Nominator's rationale: rename, "template" is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Travelers
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Travelers to Category:People by behavior
- Propose merging Category:Female travelers to Category:Women by behavior
- Propose merging Category:Fictional travelers to Category:Fictional characters by behavior
- Nominator's rationale: It is tough to understand how this could possibly be defining. Most everyone is a traveler at some point, so it's simply too vague to function as a category. Furthermore, many of the categories herein make no sense. Migrants and stowaways are not necessarily travelers by nature, but are taking a potentially one-time journey. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I made a bit of an error in nominating; I meant to suggest merging the first two to Category:People by behavior and Category:Women by behavior respectively rather than deletion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose "Most everyone is a traveler at some point" But everyone is not known for these travels, nor everyone leaves a mark in travel literature. As always, categories are for those largely defined by the these activities. Dimadick (talk) 19:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- If it's not obvious a category is defining, and it is not here, then it is a non-defining category. "Category:People by form of notable travel" would be a more defining and correct title for this particular category, but clunky and IMO, somewhat arbitrary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Containerize Category:Travelers and Category:Female travelers, the subcategories are related somehow, but there shouldn't be any articles directly in these categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Category:Fictional travelers, neutral on the rest - A character can be defined by the fact that they travel for lengthy periods of time, not sure about real people. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is a fair point, the whole storyline may be about someone's travel. In real life that doesn't really apply though. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:29, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)- I think that we should containerize the Category:Travelers and Category:Female travelers, per marco. I'm neutral on the rest. SMasonGarrison 15:09, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Ancient and early medieval military alliances
[edit]- Propose merging Category:7th-century BC military alliances (1 P) to Category:7th-century BC military history, Category:7th century BC in international relations and Category:Ancient military alliances
- Propose merging Category:6th-century BC military alliances (2 P) to Category:6th-century BC military history, Category:6th century BC in international relations and Category:Ancient military alliances
- Propose merging Category:5th-century BC military alliances (1 C, 4 P) to Category:5th-century BC military history, Category:5th century BC in international relations and Category:Ancient military alliances
- Propose merging Category:4th-century BC military alliances (4 P) to Category:4th-century BC military history, Category:4th century BC in international relations and Category:Ancient military alliances
- Propose merging Category:8th-century military alliances (1 P) to Category:8th-century military history, Category:8th century BC in international relations and Category:Medieval military alliances
- Propose merging Category:9th-century military alliances (1 P) to Category:9th-century military history, Category:9th century BC in international relations and Category:Medieval military alliances
- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated and poorly populated categories, not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 15:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Recreational weapons
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Even standard weapons can be used for recreational (i.e. hunting) purposes, making what constitutes a "recreational" weapon vague at best. I suggest deleting it, with the exception of Category:Toy weapons which should be upmerged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and re-parent the subcategory, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Pejorative terms for in-group non-members
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Too long and clunky, this gets the point across more concisely. Qualiesin (talk) 01:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to parent Category:Pejorative terms for people, pejorative terms are usually for outgroups from the pov of the speaker and this set of articles has too little in common to keep it separate. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Most other pejoratives for groups of people are for specific groups of outsiders, this category is for terms for outsiders in general. Qualiesin (talk) 17:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't look like it. Benny (slang) is a pejorative term used by year-round residents of the Jersey Shore to describe stereotypically rude, flashy, loud tourists from North Jersey and New York. Bule (term) is an Indonesian word for foreigners and/or non-Indonesian national, specifically people of European descent ('white', 'Caucasian'). And even if were, then Category:Pejorative terms for outsiders does not clarify that at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Most other pejoratives for groups of people are for specific groups of outsiders, this category is for terms for outsiders in general. Qualiesin (talk) 17:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Pejorative terms for outsiders — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geysirhead (talk • contribs) 19:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge or rename? I am not seeing explicit opposition to the rename if there is no consensus to merge, given Marcocapelle sees both names as equally unhelpful. Feel free to correct me, however!
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)- @Marcocapelle: See above relisting comment; I want to make sure I understand your opinion. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Pejorative terms for people, precisely per Marcocapelle's reasoning. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:40, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- if not merged, I have no opinion on the rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Qualiesin: please comment on my 17:52 3 December reply. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per marco. SMasonGarrison 15:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Mayors of Barcelona City Council
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Mayors of Barcelona City Council to Category:Mayors of Barcelona
- Nominator's rationale: Mayors in Spain are members of the city council, but at least the WP:COMMONNAME of the job is "Mayor of Barcelona", just like all other Mayor categories for Spain, at least. Couple of press sources, many more [1] [2]. Official website in English. [3]. An analogy to the current title would be "prime minister of the British House of Commons"; the prime minister sits in the HoC yes, but that is far from the most common title. Unknown Temptation (talk) 20:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Unknown Temptation I concur. Your proposal makes a lot of sense. There is no other use of 'Mayor of Barcelona' as a title or for anything else for that matter. Plus, the Spanish and Catalan categories for this are both 'Alcaldes de Barcelona', a word-for-word translation of what you've proposed. Along the lines of PM of the British HoC, imagine if people called Charles III by his full formal title... Charles the Third, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. It's excessive. Montezuma69 (talk) 03:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Was not tagged. I will do so.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Reality by type
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Reality by type to Category:Reality
- Nominator's rationale: Most of these aren't really a type of reality, but a way of interpreting or adding onto reality. The title being misleading as it is, it's best to simply merge them back to the parent category. Alternatively, this category may be deleted instead as simply WP:SHAREDNAME without relation to the scientific or philosophical concept of reality. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment If soft closed, I think merger would be best to be safe. People can remove anything they think doesn't fit later if necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rather merge than delete, per Zxcvbnm. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:English female characters in drama television series
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unneeded differenciation. FishLoveHam (talk) 19:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:English male characters in drama television series
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unneeded differenciation. FishLoveHam (talk) 19:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional businesspeople in soap operas
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unneeded differenciation. FishLoveHam (talk) 19:12, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:English male characters in soap operas
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unneeded and overly-specific differenciation. Soap operas are television. FishLoveHam (talk) 19:15, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:English female characters in soap operas
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unneeded and overly-specific differenciation. Soap operas are television. FishLoveHam (talk) 19:15, 8 December 2024 (UTC)