Talk:Sundae

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This article doesn't say what an ice cream sundae is! It just talks about the circumstances surrounding its introduction.

Fixed. --Arteitle 07:27, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)

And what about the pronuntiation? ['sΛndI]?

Ok, so I tried to clean this thing up somewhat. For the time being, I've removed the link to Geek Trivia: Sweetness and lies as it doesn't actually quote or say where Mencken admitted to his hoax. (Michael Turback's site gives part of a quote, but doesn't actually point to where Mencken said it, either.) -- User:MrBula 01:30, 27 July 2006

restoring information from The Ithaca Journal > not a POV source

While it may be a newspaper in Ithaca, it is still a legitmate news source, and the data in that story was not from an op-ed page, but from a news article. I have restored it. Cornell Rockey 18:39, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a "community interest" piece about two schoolgirls speculating about dates, printed in a newspaper that is overwhelmingly likely to be POV regarding this issue. When citing claims in controversial sources, the usual solution is to attribute the claim to the person making it. I've rewritten your addition in this style, and stated the facts without the speculation. Anomie 19:18, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, a much better solution than deleting information. Well done! Cornell Rockey 19:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it anything new

Don't kill the messenger, but isn't sundae just a different name for type of ice cream presentation? I suspect that it was around for a long time outside around the world before people started calling it "sundae". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.188.93.138 (talk) 21:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How long do you think that modern-type ice cream has been around, and commonly available? (Not that long, relatively. This is why we had "ice-cream socials". It was a lot of work to make ice cream." Drsruli (talk) 17:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

I removed this sentence from the start of the first section of the article:

According to the Webster & Merriam Dictionary, the origin of the term sundae came from the greek word sudaie, meaning treat.

Not only can I not find any such thing as a Webster & Merriam Dictionary, the Merriam-Webster dictionary at m-w.com lists the etymology simply as “probably alteration of Sunday.” I suspect this Greek assertion was a hoax. — crism (talk) 17:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I should have checked the article history first. I restored the OED etymology note. — crism (talk) 18:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ice cream sundaes were named sundaes in the honor of the day it was created. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.241.95 (talk) 01:21, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Food value / health implications

Perhaps, given that it is eaten, there should be something about its food value.

Ice-cream sundae is a characteristic food item in modern western societies, consisting mostly of sugar and fat - two constituents recognised to be excessively consumed in some, but not all (*), of the most affluent societies to the detriment of their health.

To omit this fundamental aspect is not to accurately describe the product in a balanced way and leaves the article reading somewhat like an advert for the product.

(*) cf. USofA vs. Japanese diets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.213.174 (talk) 13:11, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, this applies to ice cream in general. Ice cream, as opposed to may other dessert- or snack-type items, at least also has some legitimate nutritional value as protein and calcium, for example. Low-fat, and low-sugar varieties are available, besides. (Indeed, even in outlets. Carvel, for example, has "Thinny-thin" soft serve offerrings with much lower caloric content.) Drsruli (talk) 17:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most expensive Sundae...

Can't edit, however, it says it is eaten with an "18-karat gold spoon". But the actual page for the sundae says "18-carat golden spoon". Needs changing to accurately reflect the correct spelling. 77.86.122.25 (talk) 15:22, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that both carat and karat are correct. Carat is usual in the United Kingdom, and karat in the United States. Pavel (talk) 17:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from KellyMarkwell, 3 April 2011

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Plainfield, Illinois portion of the historical places:

Plainfield, Illinois is also claimed to be the home of the very first ice cream sundae. Story says that a Plainfield druggist created the novelty after the urgings of patrons to serve something different. Topping some ice cream with syrup, he named it the "sonntag" after his surname. Sonntag means Sunday in German, thus the ice cream sundae was born.^[1]

KellyMarkwell (talk) 17:05, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. And thank you for contributing! 64.142.90.33 (talk) 04:58, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.plainfield-il.org/visiting/villagehistory.php

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can we add the google logo because its on http://www.google.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.233.99.119 (talk) 20:11, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another Possible Town That Claims The First Ice Cream Sundae.

I once heard data from a high school teacher in Derry, NH, U.S.A.. I think the teacher's name was A. Carnovale. The school was Pinkerton, Academy. In the late 1980s, Mr. Carnovale (s.p.?) said that: Derry, N.H. claimed that Derry was the birthplace of the first ice cream sundae.

I believe Mr. Carnovale also said that: Derry, New Hampshire also claimed that: Derry was the first town to first sell baked potatoes.

Maybe he meant that Derry was the first town, in the U.S., to sell them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maskedmoon (talk • contribs) 22:13, 3 April 2011 (UTC) Maskedmoon (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article on Derry, N.H. states that: the first potato planted in the United States, was in: Derry, N.H.. That could be what Mr. Carnolvale had said about potatoes and Derry, N.H.Maskedmoon (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for someone to nominate this article for GA status

Does anyone else think this article is up to GA status?--Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 00:06, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Carvell

A Sundae is specifically soft-serve ice cream, any flavour or combination with toppings, whipped cream and a cherry. ("Wednesday is Sundae at Carvell.") Drsruli (talk) 17:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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