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Nysa and Neisse

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To anyone, who might have the idea of moving this article to its German name "Neisse": This article shall remain under its Polish name in accordance with a compromise, which you may view on the Odra talk page. So, please don't move it! -- Cordyph 15:16 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)


Does anyone have any evidence that the second and third rivers listed here are actually called Neisse in English? I think this page should be about the Neisse of the Oder-Neisse line (which is currently unnecessarily disambiguated as Lusatian Neisse), and that the other two are usually called Nysa in English. --Zundark 10:33, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)


In my opinion the pronounciation of Nysa in English is very close to pronounciation of German Neisse. That's why the English name of the river is Nysa: the Lusatian Nysa, the Klodzko Nysa, etc -- cc, 22:18, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Interesting change of tactics, but equally wrong. It's not just pronounced "Neisse" in English (and native English speakers will know how to pronounce it based on that spelling, not your incorrect spelling), but it's also spelled that way too. Daniel Quinlan 00:18, Dec 13, 2003 (UTC)


Nysa and Hittite Kanes

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Is possible that Nysa, the birth-city of Dionysus was the city Kanesh or Nesa in Eastern Anatolia? Is possible that the etymology of name "Dionysus" is "Deus (the) Nesian" i.e "God the Hittite"?

Note: The real name of the indoeuropean Hittites was "Nesites" or Nesians.

--IonnKorr 12:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Many Greeks were sure that the cult of Dionysus arrived in Greece from Anatolia, but Greek concepts of where Nysa was, whether set in Anatolia, or in Libya ('away in the west beside a great ocean'), Ethiopia (Herodotus), or Arabia (Diodorus Siculus), are variable enough to suggest that a magical distant land was intended, perhaps named 'Nysa' to explain the God's unreadable name, as the 'god of Nysa.' Apollodorus seems to be following Pherecydes, who relates how the infant Dionysus, god of the grapevine, was nursed by the rain-nymphs, the Hyades at Nysa. The Anatolian Hittites' name for themselves in their own language ("Nesili") was "Nesi," however.
From site:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/encyclopedia/dionysus

--IonnKorr 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]