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Discography

I'm breaking out the album/EP sections into separate articles. I hope no one minds this change. - McCart42 (talk) 17:04, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

Since Hebden's work is developing into a complex web of solo releases, side projects, remixes, etc., shouldn't we consider a seperate Kieran Hebden discography article? --Sparklism 09:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've done a bit of work in cleaning up the remixography, and I plan to do more. I still believe that we should have a seperate Kieran Hebden discography page, with just the main releases covered by this article - does anyone object to this? Thanks --sparkl_!sm ^talk 20:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting the discography sounds good to me — it's well over half the article at this point. æ ² ✆ 2007‑07‑10t22:04z

Done. --sparkl_!sm ^talk 12:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bashing on fans

Lets keep a NPOV on this article. To my eye, describing the group this music appeals to as "the new-media coffee-table music generation." has some explanatory value and is neutral. However, adding that those people are "a fairly elitist and self-styled 'intellectual' social group." is derrogatory and a very specific point of view. If you have a bone to pick with those people, do it somewhere else.

Can the editor from 87.80.120.8 provide documentation to support that "Hebden himself is notoriously arrogant and often patronising to people he views 'below' his status, and is disliked even by some staff at his own record label Domino"?

Raketenmensch 22:00, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate picture caption

Kieran Hebden spins records in the Grog Shop in Cleveland, Ohio

Not true. He is known for using only two computers in his music and the picture clearly depicts this. Ninetigerr 09:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)ninetigerr[reply]

Name pun?

Is there a pun in the name? In Greek, tettares means four, and you find this all over the place in English -- the prefix tetra- is used to mean four. It's similar to the "quadri-" in "quadrilaterl".

See the Wiktionary entry: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tetra-.

If it's not intentional, would it be worth mentioning anyway?

Maerk 01:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the name Four Tet is a pun on the word "quartet". æ ² ✆ 2007‑01‑18t15:06z

Yes it's true! Four Tet ~ Quartet as stated in this Youtube Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc8Ct4W-ork Groocker (talk) 13:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, obviously, just wondered if the "Tet" was another pun. Else it could have been spelt as Fourtet. There's no Greek connection then? Just speculating, I spose. Maerk 02:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting theory, though I've not heard it elsewhere. æ ² ✆ 2007‑01‑22t07:18z

I always assumed it was a musical term. If you read equal temperament you can see 12-TET (12 Tone Equal Temperament) is a widely used tuning system. I don't know a lot about music theory but I just guessed that therefore 4-TET was possible and that's where the name originated. I'd quite like to know the true meaning however. Also, for some dense reason the pun on 'quartet' never crossed my mind, but that makes sense too. Iae 23:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just for reference, 12 TET is the most common Western tuning system. I assumed this was the inspiration for the name. I was hoping this article would confirm / debunk that assumption. ExtremeSquared (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we should put anything about where the "Tet" part of the name comes from. It would only be speculation on our part. I take it to refer to the Vietnamese holiday, but who knows? Reverse Gear 05:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

I propose moving this article to Kieran Hebden; it covers more than Hebden's output as Four Tet (remixes and Steve Reid, for example). æ ² ✆ 2007‑06‑28t22:12z

Interesting point. I think you may be right, or perhaps we need seperate Kieran Hebden, Four Tet and Fridge articles? --sparkl_!sm ^talk 20:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No objections here. If the material ever becomes extensive enough, a separate article for Four Tet can be split out. Hopefully you plan on rewriting the intro a little too (as opposed to 'just' a page move)? --Quiddity 22:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. :) Oh — one more thing: are there any sourceable personal details? The article doesn't even have a date of birth.... æ ² ✆ 2007‑07‑09t06:16z

Google only reveals these 2: [1], [2]. Nothing more precise for DoB that I can find. See google for interviews for more background details. --Quiddity 19:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've placed that information in the article — since those two aren't definitive sources I didn't use them as references, though. Still working on getting something cite-able. æ ² ✆ 2007‑07‑10t18:49z

I've done a bit more work on the intro, though there's still a helluva long way to go...--sparkl_!sm ^talk 21:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Album covers

Just a heads-up to let people know that a number of Four Tet album covers have been deleted due to not having a fair use rationale. (I'm personally disappointed that there wasn't any advance notice on the articles in which the covers were included.) I've re-uploaded the Rounds album cover (Image:Four Tet - Rounds.jpg) with an appropriate rationale and am working on a couple of others; if a couple of other people could go through the discog and help finish up that would be great. Thanks! æ ² ✆ 2007‑07‑14t04:37z

Looks like Kieran Hebden has another stage name.

It's Burial, the dubstep producer whose name was believed to have been "William Bevan." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_%28musician%29

He used this website to play a practical joke with a pun on his stage name: http://www.williambevan.co.uk

But Dead Air Space, Radiohead's blog, shows Thom Yorke introducing Kieran 'Burial' Hebden. http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/index.php?a=408

These pages (Kieran Hebden and Burial) should probably be merged once more sufficient evidence presents itself. 68.35.62.19 (talk) 03:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Geoff[reply]

This surely is not the case, is it? sparkl_!sm ^hey! 07:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't we add "Everything is Alright"?

This song was from the album Pause, and was featured in a nike commercial. See: http://74.125.93.104/search?q=cache:7x-ZMykD0NAJ:https://www.shootonline.com/go/news-view.7218.With-Nike--Rain-Becomes-A-Runner-s-Delight.html+everything+is+alright+four+tet+nike&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

The commercial is shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLKwMYyC2vE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideosearch%3Fq%3DEnjoy%2520the%2520Weather%2520-%2520Raining%2520Runners%26oe%3Dutf-8%26rls%3Dorg.moz&feature=player_embedded

I think this is pretty notable, even though his work was used by Nike on two other accounts.

Smkohnstamm (talk) 17:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I corrected the article to reflect that "Everything is Alright" was used in the Nike commercial - not "Slow Jam." Even the already cited article says as much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.163.81.147 (talk) 03:09, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dead link

Link of source [1] is dead. An archived version exists on https://web.archive.org/web/20090907195446/http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/sunday-review/regulars/closeup-kieran-hebden-864626.html I don't know how that is corrected properly, can someone help out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.239.16.92 (talk) 23:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed (like so), and thanks! –Quiddity (talk) 00:28, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge of Text Records into Four Tet

Label page is lacking in coverage which supports independent notability. It gets mentioned in articles about releases on the label but only briefly. Has been tagged for lack of coverage since 2012 with essentially no improvement (changed from {{one source}} to {{refimprove}} with the addition of a Discogs link three years ago). The Milk Factory interview on this page should be enough to build a small section on the label in the target page. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: the label carries many other artists, so a merge to its founder wouldn't be helpful for readers. A merge would increase the number of citations on the page, but wouldn't solve the referencing problems, which is that the existing content isn't sufficiently supported with reliable references. Klbrain (talk) 10:05, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose: The label is independently notable. Ceoil (talk) 01:47, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing, given the uncontested objections and no support. Klbrain (talk) 16:28, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]