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VOC Historical Society reference

Note, the reference of the VOC Historical Society for Hartog states that he made the first recorded European landing on Australian soil. This statement would appear to be incorrect, since Willem Janszoon's party aboard the Duyfken had made two (albeit, brief) landings on the western shores of Cape York Peninsula some ten years earlier, during which more than half his crew were killed in encounters with the indigenous inhabitants. Hartog's expedition was the first to spend a few days on Australian territory, if you like, since they spent three days ashore, whilst Janszoon's landings were only brief and aborted affairs. --cjllw | TALK 02:10, 2005 July 13 (UTC)

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 11:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC) Dirk Hartog is a valuable piece of pigs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.67.176 (talk) 03:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest known Australian written artifact

This is dubious as far as I know, given that the Aboriginals had a long distance form of mail, considered by many to be a written language. I believe its called something like spirit sticks. Perhaps this should be re-worded to explain that this is the oldest known, European language artifact in Australia.--Senor Freebie (talk) 07:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It does say "European" ... did when you added your tag too. --DeVerm (talk) 02:44, 25 July 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Second or third?

Dirk Hartog's expedition was the third European group to land on Australian soil. … His was the second recorded European expedition to land on the Australian continent.

Anyone see a contradiction there? -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 03:26, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can glean from the Exploration of Australia page, his group were the second group to land in what is now Australia. Getting technical, he never set foot on the Australian continent, only on an island off the coast of it. Ignorant Armies^?! 03:54, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dates of discoveries

The article says that the Eendracht arrived safely in Batavia in December 1616. However, the article by Phillip E Playford (Australian Dictionary of Biography)suggests that it reached Macassar on 14 December (presumably 1616). This is a long way from Batavia and even if the Eendracht arrived in Batavia at the beginning of December 1616, would that have given Hartog time to disembark, conduct business, take on new supplies and then make it to Macassar within two weeks?

Also, the Wikipedia article says that Willem de Vlamingh landed on Dirk Hartog Island and found the plate in 1696, whereas the Playford article says that he landed there on 2 February 1697. Which is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.212.74 (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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You Dutch have funny names

According to Hartog plate his name was DIRCK HATICHS. How does that change to Hartog? Worth adding to this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MBG02 (talk • contribs) 01:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously though, the names are very different - how is that? Geopersona (talk) 04:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]