Talk:Slavica Ecclestone
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Available sources
[edit]It's difficult to find details about Slavica. I can't seem to find any mention of when she and Bernie actually married, of where she was born (bar "Croatia"), much else about her modelling career (bar "Armani") including when she started, and the details of the Ecclestone's bizantine system of holding companies is (deliberately, I'm sure) unfathomably complex. Any more info anyone has (perhaps in the former-yugoslavian press) would be good. Thanks. Middenface 01:31, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
About the language barrier: Ecclestone seems to talk or understand some Italian, probably from the days of sponsorship and business with Parmalat. I think that at some point he was even legally resident in Italy. alessio 10:53, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
About the structure of the Formula One Group, see http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=3127517 alessio 10:53, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I read in a Serbian magazine that she was born in Maglajani to Serbian parents,a place near Laktasi in Bosnia(R.Srpska)and that she donated a crystal chandelier to a Orthodox church in Aleksandovac(Serbia).
- Slavica was born to Serbian parents. You can red interview with her on link below:
- Moja krsna slava je Đurđevdan i svake godine na taj dan sa svojom familijom, po pravoslavnim običajima, proslavljamo slavu. Rodbinske veze se moraju održavati, a rođaci međusobno pomagati. Time što sam se udala za čoveka koga i danas volim kao i prvog dana ništa se nije promenilo u mojim porodičnim vezama.
http://www.srpskadijaspora.info/vest.asp?id=6262
- I am sorry but I don't think we can call that a valid source according to the Wikipedia verifiability rule, the site is more alike to yellow press more than anyting else. Slavic herslef has on several occasions claimed that she was born in Rijeka and she is also well known for her lobbying for Croatian wherever she goes. Tar-Elenion 17:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- we should consider you as a valid source? can you quote any, whatsoever source, for your claims? thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.231.6 (talk) 21:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
her ethnicity
[edit]please stop reverting, we have shown several sources claiming she is serb —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulcicero (talk • contribs) 16:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC).
- Is yellow press a source? Tar-Elenion 17:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
All the sources arent "yellow press" as you put it, we have 4 sources of which 3 cant be considered as yellow press. You haven´t provided ANY source claiming she is croat...
- 4? I see only one. --PaxEquilibrium 22:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- After Elenion's revert you se none, but here there were four. Nikola 23:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Each and every of those is a tabloid, repeating the same BS. Tar-Elenion 11:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- After Elenion's revert you se none, but here there were four. Nikola 23:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- 4? I see only one. --PaxEquilibrium 22:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, I find it strange/interesting that her own daughter says that she is Croatian, if you look at her Wiki page:
- "My parents are opposites who balance each other out. My mum, Slavica, is passionate and overexciteable. She's good friends with Goran Ivanisevic, her fellow Croatian. I'll never forget watching him win Wimbledon. My dad sits at home and whatever sport's on, he's watching it. He's just as passionate, but he's very British, very reserved. He'll clap politely while mum's jumping off the sofa. When it comes to watching Croatia v England, the house is divided: Mum, sister Petra and me versus Dad."
Why would a Serb root for Croatia and call a Croatian her "countrymen"? All I see from her interview is that she says she is Orthodox. Maybe she has mixed ancestry? Who knows. But I don't want to get involved with this, you people can duke it out.--Jesuislafete 04:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Well arent the sources where her daughter say she is croatian yellow press?? Why dont we skip all ethnicity-related aspects and just write that she was an armani model etc.
- Slavica lived and worked in Croatia for a while. Nikola 10:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- How long did she live or worked in Serbia? Tar-Elenion 11:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Are you saying that because she hasnt lived or worked in Serbia she isnt serbian?? Paulcicero 13:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- No, I am saying that the fact that she visited Belgrade doesn't immediately means she is Serbian as your tabloids have presented it. Tar-Elenion 14:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Our sources arent tabloids, and even if they were they are better then NO SOURCES, but my suggestion is that we leave her ethnicity out of the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulcicero (talk • contribs) 14:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
- Kurir, Blic, Serbianna....these are all known tabloids. Tar-Elenion 15:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well what do you have? 83.248.137.228 16:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Read carefully. [1] Tar-Elenion 17:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- You complain about our sources and thats the best you can come up with? Paulcicero 19:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Daily Telegraph is as opposed to your "sources": 1. Not Serbian propaganda 2. Not a tabloid. It's worth more than all your supposed "sources".
- It does not. DT only says that Slavica's daughter says that her mother calls Goran Ivanisevic her "fellow Croatian". But that doesn't mean anything as Slavica lived and worked in Croatia. Nikola 11:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- You know very well what her fellow Croatian means. I have no intention "explaining" this to you. Tar-Elenion 20:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- It does not. DT only says that Slavica's daughter says that her mother calls Goran Ivanisevic her "fellow Croatian". But that doesn't mean anything as Slavica lived and worked in Croatia. Nikola 11:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Daily Telegraph is as opposed to your "sources": 1. Not Serbian propaganda 2. Not a tabloid. It's worth more than all your supposed "sources".
- You complain about our sources and thats the best you can come up with? Paulcicero 19:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Read carefully. [1] Tar-Elenion 17:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well what do you have? 83.248.137.228 16:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Kurir, Blic, Serbianna....these are all known tabloids. Tar-Elenion 15:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Our sources arent tabloids, and even if they were they are better then NO SOURCES, but my suggestion is that we leave her ethnicity out of the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulcicero (talk • contribs) 14:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
- No, I am saying that the fact that she visited Belgrade doesn't immediately means she is Serbian as your tabloids have presented it. Tar-Elenion 14:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Are you saying that because she hasnt lived or worked in Serbia she isnt serbian?? Paulcicero 13:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- How long did she live or worked in Serbia? Tar-Elenion 11:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- What? Kurir might be a tabloid, but it is a political tabloid. Blic is a respectable daily. Serbianna is a respectable portal. The link you provided doesn't show anything either way. Nikola 21:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Please do not make me laugh. Tar-Elenion 20:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Tickle tickle. Nikola 11:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please do not make me laugh. Tar-Elenion 20:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- What? Kurir might be a tabloid, but it is a political tabloid. Blic is a respectable daily. Serbianna is a respectable portal. The link you provided doesn't show anything either way. Nikola 21:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if she is Serb or Croat; For all smart and educated people on Earth - Serb and Croat is a SAME thing. If Dado Prso couldn't do it, Slavica is probably smart enough to realize this fact and in spite of all pathetic nationalists and separatists, be equally a Serb and a Croat, or, maybe the best - Serbocroat.:)) Cheers.24.86.116.250 (talk) 07:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I'm surprised that nobody argued that she is Bosnian. She was born in Bosnia and claiming that she is Bosnian doesn't imply that her nationality was Croatian nor Serbian. Surtsicna (talk) 19:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Slavica a Serb
[edit]Ivan, I must claim that I seriously doubt in the dubiousness of the sources claiming she's Serb. Perhaps You shouldn't've reverted. --PaxEquilibrium 18:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Meh; having this version is better than having editors fight daily revert wars over the Croat/Serb version. —KingIvan 03:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Slavica is a Serb, nothing but a Serb and only a Serb. Just like Nikola Tesla was a Serb, only a Serb and nothing else but a Serb. If your parents are Serbian then you are a Serb, period. Now, all of this can be checked in the municipality of Republika Srpska (Serbian Republic) where her parents were born. Once checked these documents should be scanned and uploaded onto this site so everybody can see with their own eyes that Slavica is a Serb, only a Serb and nothning but a Serb, period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokotjer (talk • contribs) 02:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Dates of Birth/Bad Grammar
[edit]The two kids seem to have different years of birth on Bernie's, their mother's and their own wiki pages.
Further to the factual inaccuracies, there are numerous grammar problems and rather pointless information. (i.e. how she flies home)
This page should be considered for deletion. Boils (talk) 07:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Slavica birthplace and ethnicity
[edit]Hello everyone this is common misconception that Slavica origin is from Croatia, when in fact she is from village between Laktaši and Gradiška in Bosnia. However her parents moved to Rijeka. And few months ago they visited her birthplace and in fact donated money for reconstruction of Orthodox church. Also they had meeting with Bosnia Serb prime minister. source Beldamar (talk) 07:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Slavica - a Serb
[edit]She stated in a recent interview her parents migrated to Serbia to escape the war in Croatia. If she is an Orthodox Christian then she cannot be in any shape or form a Croat but a Serb. Croats have a craving for anything Serb so it doesnt suprise me they even want to croatise Slavica as well - they almost croatised Nikola Tesla which borders insanity. But that's Croatian nature to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.37.165 (talk) 12:34, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- Stop the nationalism. My grandparents had migrated to Serbia and they never considered themselves to be Serbs and neither do I, although my uncle has a house in Belgrade. If she doesn't explicitly state that she is a Serb, then she isn't. —Admiral Norton (talk) 21:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Well if half of the world is stupid, Wikipedia shouldn´t be. Why not start calling this people Yugoslavs again ? She was born Yugoslav, and I think she still is (which makes her a rare but honourable species) ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.132.189.154 (talk) 16:11, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Merge proposal
[edit]I think this article should be merged into Bernie Ecclestone#Personal life. I'm not convinced Slavica is notable in her own right; most of the sources about her cover her in the context of her ex-husband. There are a few sources discussing her independently, but I can't find enough to really justify a separate article. (I contrast this with Tamara and Petra Ecclestone, about whom there does seem to be just about enough to say to justify separate articles.) Robofish (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Place of Birth?
[edit]Is she born in Banja Luka or in Rijeka? There are 2 informations...VuXman talk 21:06, 24 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serbianboy (talk • contribs)
gold diggers section needed
[edit]gold diggers section needed 37.188.165.244 (talk) 03:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Page merge, or deletion
[edit]I don't think Mrs Ecclestone should have Wikipedia article, she's not relevant anymore, especially after her divorce. Dekker2 (talk) 15:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
I think tech savvy StefenTower should review the Ecclestone's article and correct erroneous stuff. Dekker2 (talk) 13:25, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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