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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was delete. Joyous 16:18, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

Michael Thorne

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Non-notable principal of a (was tempted to say "non-notable") high school. I suppose, since every single school in the world is notable, that every single member of their faculty and janitorial staff are also notable, but I hope I'm wrong. RickK 00:47, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

  • Your message is quite inappropriate in my mind, and is rather childish. Not only does your message have a mocking tone through out but it also reeks of elitism. While the content of the article may be in doubt, i see no point in having such negative and condescending message. From the looks of your homepage you are a veteran user, so i would think that you of all people would know how to best approach Vfd's but judging from your above message I guess I am mistaken. bakuzjw (aka 578) 01:19, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • [Personal attack removed.] Delete -R. fiend 02:01, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
      • This is crazy, the elitism here is amazing. But R. fiend, [personal attack removed.] bakuzjw (aka 578) 02:37, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
        • My guess would be that Rick's rant is not directed at Michael Thorne or the author of the article, but the "radical inclusionist" faction. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:49, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)
    • Delete It is understandable for a person (or his/her associates) to want to be present on the internet, meaning that a search for that person can unambiguously lead to information about that person. The vast majority of people are not present and of those that are the vast majority suffer from a lack of disambiguation; Michael Thorne is a case in point (take a brief look at the googling of this person) However, this really isn't the place for such indexing and disambiguation. What is a good place? The person wanting to be present should a) have a personal website or webpage (not an encyclopedia article) and b) be included in those online lists that reflect his/her desire to be seen. For instance, should there be a list of principals @ dmoz.org (see for instance architects which like most such lists is largely content-free). The best way to handle this, or so I've come to believe, is to have an organizational ownership for such lists; for instance, the National Council for Teachers of English or the National Collegiate Athletics Association. What's the boundary beyond which someone is "famous" enough to be listed here, in Wikipedia? This type of voting system is a major method of determining just who is "famous" enough and who is not; by consensus it seems that Mr. Thorne is not ... but not all the votes are in perhaps. Courtland {2005-01-30 USA 14:15 EST}
      • I just discovered the List of people by name in Wikipedia, where Mr. Thorne is not listed (see this subpage). Suggestion: put Mr. Thorne there with the information noted on this page and delete this page. In that way, his information will be preserved in Wikipedia without occupying an entire article. Thoughts? Courtland {2005-01-30 USA ~14:30 EST}
  • Keep The information contained in the article is not trivial, and will be found useful by some. PhoenixPinion 01:07, 29 Jan, 2005
  • Delete --fvw* 01:51, 2005 Jan 29 (UTC)
  • Delete He's probably a great guy, but he doesn't seem to be notable enough for inclusion into the 'pedia. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:54, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, not notable enough. Megan1967 02:43, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Notable enough to keep. Needs bias cleaned up tho.--Centauri 03:06, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep This information is true and it could be worth something to someone, i see no reason to delete it. bakuzjw (aka 578) 03:42, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete and everyone calm down. Gamaliel 03:55, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete anfd remind everyone What Wikipedia is not: Wikipedia is not a general knowledge base. humblefool 04:00, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete simply not notable enough to be encyclopedic. Rje 04:18, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. What Dante and Gamaliel said. Niteowlneils 05:34, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. What humblefool said. —Korath (Talk) 06:00, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete -- kaal 07:39, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete for total non-notability. KingTT 07:40, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Ambi 11:10, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Schools are not inherently notable. Headmasters are not inherently notable. Having played American football and being able to play the guitar are not grounds for notability. No other evidence whatever for notability offered by the article. Wikipedia is not a list of all of the people in the world. Delete. Uncle G 14:25, 2005 Jan 29 (UTC)
  • Delete WP is not a list of everyone with a managerial job. --207.253.111.119 15:02, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • This vote, as under wikipedia policy, should not be counted becuase it was cast by an anonymous user. bakuzjw (aka 578) 03:25, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. True is not enough, it has to be a little more notable than this. He is mentioned in the school article, isn't that enough? Feel free to create "HighschoolWiki", though. I might drop by to add my old headmaster. Alarm 18:16, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, not notable. --RoySmith 18:43, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete: WP != list of everyone in the world. Wile E. Heresiarch 13:02, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Particularly notable principles/head teachers etc. probably do deserve a mention - I can think of a couple in the UK that were the focus of significant media attention. Mr Thorne, on the other hand, does not appear to have had the time to become particularly influential, and has not been the centre of significant media attention. Average Earthman 18:51, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable --Neigel von Teighen 20:06, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable. Jayjg (talk) 03:27, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Xezbeth 18:15, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. 207.253.111.119 said it best. - RedWordSmith 01:42, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, WP is not a list of everyone in the world, and this person is the non-notable principal of a non-notable high school. Bart133 (t) 04:18, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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