Template talk:Team sports

Comment

I'm not sure about this. This could get very big indeed! Mintguy (T) 21:20, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

If and when this grows too big, it can be simply broken into separate templates for groups of similar sports. No need to make strict rules about what should be included. Wipe 08:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Variants

Should variants of team sports belong here ? Not sure about Futsal. If it belongs there it should probably be grouped with football(soccer) given that it is governed by FIFA. --Spewmaster 00:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think Futsal is different from soccer as Baseball is different from Softball and Canadian football from American football, aren't they? --Cpt.Miller 13:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

On that topic, Touch Football should be listed under Rugby but it does not come under either League or Union due to the fact that it could fit either catagory, having originated seperately from both codes and ultimately combining to form the seperate sport that it is today. --210.1.221.121 (talk) 14:34, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Their is no touch article for Union if it created , we can add it Gnevin (talk) 15:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Bowling?

Is bowling a sport? Corpx 17:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

maybe, but it is not a team sport. --Howard the Duck 03:44, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It should be added, because it CAN be a team sport; they teams play bowling. Tennis (including royal tennis) and badminton need to be added as well.174.3.103.39 (talk) 20:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

But it isn't an interdependent team sport. -- Smjg (talk) 17:50, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Grouping

I'm inclined to put polo and hockey into a navbox subgroup under stick-and-ball sports. They all share the common feature of maneuvering a ball (or puck) towards a goal with a type of stick: hockey is distinguished by having the ball rolling or sliding along the ground, while polo is distinguished by the use of a mount.

Also, as sepak takraw is essentially volleyball with feet instead of hands, I think it should be put in the volleyball section (which would be more descriptive than "other").

Thoughts? — Gwalla | Talk 23:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not into this grouping of sports into "codes", that is just broad generalization, and it is certainly not scientific. We can speak of football codes, for instance, since they all developed from the same sport, but, say, waterpolo is most certainly not a "code" of handball. This template was much better before, generalizing seems to have gone out of hand now. Zhelja (talk) 01:58, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Thus water polo is listed as other codes Gnevin (talk) 23:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Splitting

As per the thread at the very top of this page, I think it'd be good to have this template split into smaller templates, such as "football", linking all the footballs together; all the safehavens, etc. As cricket and American football really have little to do with eachother. However if they were grouped with other footballs and safehavens, the template would be much more meaningful (and a more appropriate size). Anyone else think this is a good idea?--Jeff79 (talk) 11:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I have no complaints. What to do with the "miscellaneous" sports, though? — Gwalla | Talk 20:43, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Ball Games

I changed the name to ball games, as that seems to be what the list consists of. Rather than team sports, where it omits all motorsport, track and field team sports for a few examples. If anyone disagrees, we can change it back and discuss the issue. Elocute (talk) 20:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

What about games like tennis, golf or even bowling? They're not ball games? I say this template's outgrown itself and needs to be split up into the already existing sub-categories within it (see above discussions).--Jeff79 (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Airsoft and curling are not ball games. — Gwalla | Talk 21:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

This is true, I have noticed a few others which are not ball games aswell. Teams sports or even ball games both seem far too generaler topics for either to be adequately covered in a navbox. It seems there is growing consensus for a split. Elocute (talk) 01:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I would hardly say motor sports or track and field (especially) are team sports, and that's why they're not included. chandler • 01:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Time to split it up then, yes?--Jeff79 (talk) 08:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about that... I saw no problem with the team sport template, by all means create other ones too, but think thisshould be reverted to a team sports template chandler • 12:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Create other ones too? So that baseball, for example, has this template and another one with it called "safehaven games" which is a simple duplication of the section in the team sports template? Really, a person reading an article about baseball might be interested in other related sports (safehaven games). There's no need for an over-sized template containing links to all other sports which can be defined as 'team' or 'game' sports (the association between baseball and kabbadi is loose indeed). The categories should suffice for that. Let's not forget the purpose of navboxes like these, and that is to easily direct readers to related article that might interest them.--Jeff79 (talk) 12:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree with jeff, and as response to chandler, I don't really think it is our place to choose the definition of team to suit us. If teams play a sport, then surely it is a team sport, how else could we define it? And since in track we have relay teams, or elsewhere we have swim teams, or at ironman there are triathlon teams, and at F1 and A1 we have teams that race, I think that if we are going to comprehensively list teams, we should include these, however I think such a template would be unweildy, and of limited use. For that reason I support a split into the different areas of sport. Elocute (talk) 09:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Rugby

Apart from the name how are Underwater rugby and Wheelchair rugby related too Rugby football,they share no history and very few similarities .They should not be grouped with Rugby football . 86.42.93.120 (talk) 22:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

This is an old post, so perhaps Wheelchair rugby (aka murder ball) was previously grouped with the rugby football codes - I haven't checked - but the recent edit to remove Wheelchair rugby league removed a legitimate derivative so I have reversed the change. LunarLander // talk // 00:27, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah sorry about that,didn't notice that was linking to the league variant Gnevin (talk) 11:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

About Water polo

I know this sport is playing in swimming pool by hand, so it is a version of Handball in water. But I don't know why it belongs to another code?--Pierce (talk) 15:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

It has more history in common with Rugby than Handball or Polo. Other is the best place for it 87.198.164.254 (talk) 12:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Quidditch

Was WP:BOLD and removed the fictional sport of Quidditch. Discuss if needed. — MrDolomite • Talk 16:56, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it a real world sport now? CBS news Banaticus (talk) 00:05, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Sort of, it is: see Muggle Quidditch. 82.141.119.222 (talk) 05:18, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Changed "codes" to "sports"

I changed the words "codes" to "sports", seeing as the the template name is "team sports". I'm not sure where "codes" came from. Banaticus (talk) 00:10, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Codes is the word used to describe sports with commonality but different rules. See Football Gnevin (talk) 18:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't think "codes" is used outside of football and rugby and if not we should use "sports" instead for those that don't use it. We appear to be the first ones to use phrases like "hockey codes" to refer to different kinds of hockey, for instance. And even if codes meant "sports with commonality but different rules", that still doesn't explain using "Other codes" as a section title, since those have no commonality. Recury (talk) 16:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

A code means a set of rules but I see you point . Codes for football and rugby and sports for the rest? Gnevin (talk) 18:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Works for me. I looked briefly and didn't see any others that used the word. Recury (talk) 17:29, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Safe Haven vs. Bat and ball

The section "Bat and Ball games" was piped to "Safe Haven games". Bat-and-ball-games does briefly mention the idea of a "safe haven", but it seems like the focus of the category is on the action of using a bat and ball. Unless there is some sort of evidence that "safe haven games" is the more common term, then piping doesn't make sense here. If there is such evidence, we need to consider making changes to the target article. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Safe Haven is used to disambiguate from stick and ball games like hockey. Gnevin (talk) 12:05, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but we can't make up terms for things--we have to go with what reliable sources say. Since the other article is called "Bat and Ball games", and only briefly mentions the other term, I have to assume that the former is the primary term. I'm not going to revert, but I'd like to hear other opinions on this. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Kin-Ball

I think Kin-Ball counts as an interdependent team sport, and therefore should be included. Célestin le Possédé (talk) 17:37, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Agree, added.GuzzyG (talk) 09:50, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Zoneball and Zone ball

The first is a new team game with a basket-like stand, which must hit the ball. The other is a volley-like game, just off the net. Ilmarinens May 31 2013.

Socci

Socci is an individual fitness activity, social game, and a competitive sport which takes soccer skills to a new level. Combining elements of soccer, basketball, and hackysack, the ball is played in the air, from the first bounce, and by non-consecutive ground passes. If the ball stops it is dead. Socci Sport Alternative Games are: Roller Socci, Pass and Shoot Socci, Punt & Catch Socci, Long Pass Socci, Pass, Dribble, and Shoot Socci, Scooter Socci Basketball, Corner Socci Basketball, Socci Stacked Basketball, Center Socci, Noodle Socci, Ultimate Socci, Polo Socci Hockey. , shandball Ilmarinens May 31 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilmarinens (talk • contribs) 14:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Interdependent

The word "Interdependent" was added to the title of the navbox in 2009. While I understand that it is to distinguish from things like swimming teams and athletic teams, it seems redundant, "team sports" is readily and commonly understood. I propose to remove Interdependent.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:24, 19 August 2017 (UTC).

Medieval football codes

Several of the articles linked in the "Medieval football codes" section are not medieval football codes, e.g. Jegichagi, Kī-o-rahi. Calcio Fiorentino is just past the usual definition of medieval too. Bondegezou (talk) 09:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2023

Add Minifootball to template under "Association football" in "Football codes". 73.168.5.183 (talk) 00:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC) 73.168.5.183 (talk) 00:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

 Done GiovanniSidwell (talk) 23:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Team Fencing

Fencing has a team component as well that can be considered a team sport and thus added under the other non-ball sports category. Thoughts on adding it to this template? Ragwiks (talk) 18:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Not pure team sport. It is only a team event with team ratings. Team members' performances contribute to the team's overall score, but they perform each individually. (see aslo Team sport#Team ratings). Miria~01 (talk) 19:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)