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racial advantage?

I've done some work on this article. I wrote:

Blair is an African-American, and while he was not hired or promoted according to any formal affirmative action policy, some, including Ann Coulter, believe that Blair was fast-tracked because of his race.

My invocation of Ann Coulter (a controversial conservative polemicist) was not to defeat or attack the point— in fact, I'd believe that more neutral sources have also expressed this suspicion. However, I knew that Ann Coulter had this suspicion, and anything would've looked better than a "some believe" statement. EventHorizon 19:08, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The problem with bringing up Coulter is her history of attacking the NY Times over matters out of context or things she just flat out made up. Is there anyone rational who could be used to soften this statement further? --Feitclub 02:42, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

It's not true that anything would look better than a "some believe" statement. Ann Coulter's verdict on this matter is pure wind. She certainly was not the only one to bring up the matter of race and affirmative action and the Times' own 9,000 word "Correcting the Record" article addressed this issue of race numerous times, asking editors whether Blair had been hired, promoted and/or excused for his errors because he was black. Howell Raines admitted that this was the case. Given all that happened, why anyone would bring in Ann Coulter as evidence of anything is a mystery to me. You could have written an entirely different paraghraph. If you won't, then I strongly suggest removing Coulter's name. It makes this entry look bad.--Dougzinho 01:03, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

I think my reference to Mnookin makes this a better entry. Mnookin, by the way, not only covered the Blair scandal for Newsweek, he wrote a book about it.--Christofurio 03:57, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Removed fraudster as category

Removed fraudster as category. This is most commohly used as a criminal category.--FloNight 02:38, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

According to court records, his first name is actually spelled Jason.

Can someone find a source for this and edit the article appropriately?

Boondocks

I'm concerned about this bit of trivia. Was Blair the one to make the decision to bring the comic on? If not, it's an irrelevent detail that, considering the racial nature of the comic, serves to paint Blair as having a particular political allegiance. If so, it should be made explicit. 24.136.38.121 00:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editors in chief have that name because they are in charge. QED. -Will Beback 01:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And most papers have separate editors for sections like comics, entertainment, etc. Again, was he the one who made the buy? 24.136.38.121 23:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the case of the Diamondback, for instance, I would assume the purchase of Boondocks would be made by the Diversions editor. 24.136.38.121 23:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This was before Boondocks was syndicated, it was a college student writing a cartoon for a college paper. Anyway, here's the source: [1] -Will Beback 00:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See also, The Boondocks, [2], and [3] "I know Jayson Blair from college but it's not like we were friends but he was the editor of the school paper at University of Maryland where The Boondocks first appeared, I credit him for making the decision to run it." -Will Beback 00:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jayson Blair Scandal

It's worth pointing out that the first sentence on this page is copied directly from Jayson-Blair.com. Also, I think the article should elaborate significantly on what happened after his resignation, since an article on a reporter's resignation is hardly worthy of existence, even when it was nationwide news. I might rephrase that to say that this is (supposedly) an article on Jayson Blair, not the Blair Scandal, and should be treated as such, unless the name of the article is changed.

I agree. And the material on the scandal is alarmingly POV as well; it's all written in a tone of indictment against the conspiracy of unnamed persons who supported Blair in the rise of his journalistic career. His supporters must have been aware of all his earlier misdeeds; however, (overcome by their hopelessly liberal prejudice,) they chose to look the other way (because he is black). When you fill in the obvious blanks, it's a trifecta slur against the New York Times, liberals and black people all in one. DSatz 13:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:DSatz: "I agree. And the material on the scandal is alarmingly POV as well; it's all written in a tone of indictment against the conspiracy of unnamed persons who supported Blair in the rise of his journalistic career."

Most of the people who conspired to aid and abet Blair have been named.

"His supporters must have been aware of all his earlier misdeeds; however, (overcome by their hopelessly liberal prejudice,) they chose to look the other way (because he is black)."

Your sarcasm notwithstanding, that's about right. And trying to smear as racist anyone who reports on the obvious is a bit much from someone crying, "POV!"

70.23.177.216 16:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As noted above, this is supposed to be an article about Blair, not simply about the journalism scandal. I suggest that it be edited to reduce the content devoted to the latter, such as the listing of articles with alleged irregularities (which are not sourced). It has been 14 years since his resignation. Even if that is the most notable event in his life, it no longer warrants this amount of content in his personal article.Parkwells (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Television adaptations of the incident at the Times

Two different series of the Law and Order franchise adapted the incident. The fictionalized version of Howell Raines in one (the episode "Pravda" on Law and Order: Criminal Intent) was played by Judd Hirsch, with Anthony Mackie playing Carl Hines, who was based on Blair. AndreasKQ 00:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Law and Order episode was called "Bounty" and Reuben Jackson played the character based on Blair, Brian Kellogg. AndreasKQ 03:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was just going to add that somebody should discuss the Law and Order episode. Wikipediarul e s 2221 04:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Opening Sentence

"Jayson Blair is a former African-American New York Times reporter..." So, uh, did he renounce his citizenship or did he change his race? (In seriousness, it's a simple grammar fix, but given the sensitivity of the article, I would prefer a named Wikipedia editor rather than me make the change. It seems to me that his ethnicity is superfluous in the first sentence, so African-American should be dropped. The angle in which his race may be relevant is discussed later in the article.) 71.125.129.29 04:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the participles are a bit dangled. Assuming his race is relevant, the proper way to write this is as follows: "Jayson Blair is a black person who is a former New York Times reporter . . ."

John Paul Parks (talk) 06:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

This page really ought to sight more of its references, especially since it deals with a case of major plagiarism. In many cases it cites the original article that was plagiarized, but doesn't cite the support for the Wiki article's assertions of inaccuracies in the NYT articles. Jussen 16:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article has many referecnes; it's just that many of them are at the end rather than inline. Could you please make sure you've read those before asking for new citations? ·:·Will Beback ·:· 00:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Given the serious allegations against a living person, this article needs more sourced citations. Specifically, the allegations related to each article cited in detail are not supported by any secondary sources. These are required to support the allegations, for instance, that datelines are false, or that Blair was interviewing by telephone rather than in person, etc. In each case, only the original article, about which there is question, is cited. All of these allegations could be removed as unsupported.Parkwells (talk) 15:25, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a citation for each allegation of plagiarism and fabrication - namely, the full version of the NYT's own extensive correction notice. I hope that helps. Skathelen (talk) 07:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"southern white guilt"

Raines had outright admitted his motivation. Why is that admission, which is the hallmark of this episode, not in this article? That omission only gives leeway to the reverse-racist types (like the one a few headings above) who want to claim that race had nothing to do with it. Is wikipedia going the way of politically correct double standards? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.243.115 (talk) 14:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Landman?

"Landman told the Siegal committee he felt being African-American played a large part in Blair's initial promotion..." But the name Landman is never given a role in the narrative, neither prior to this reference nor after it. And the section entitled "Opening Sentence" is right on the money. The opening needs to be reworded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.164.192.106 (talk) 10:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When did he resign? On which day?

This article mentions his resignation from the NYT in passing after the fact , but never tells us when in the timeline it actually occurred. Moncrief (talk) 13:44, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's been ten years and there have been some retrospective interviews

http://columbia.patch.com/articles/jaysonblairtalkson10yearanniversaryofresignation?national=patch&ncid=edlinkuspatc00000006 The 'probably' in his quote rather scares me but so it goes.

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Deleted article published by Simon Fraser Univ - same article and author as that of June 2003 in The Diamondhead (UMD).Parkwells (talk) 19:27, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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